Sorry guys hit the wrong button. We all know that scripture was a parable. What Jesus was talking about was back in the hebrew scriptures at Deuteronomy chapter fifteen where the bond servant would be faithful to his master. Everything Jesus quoted was always going back to the Torrah. (first five books of the bible) And if that servant was found faithful he could stay on serving the master indefinitely after his seven years were up. This proves that the faithful and discreet slave are individuals whom only the masters Jesus and Jehovah will know and pick. Not some gb of eight stooges who appointed themselves. Remember in hebrew scriptures, the ones that Jehovah chose would have special powers to do special things like Moses,Jesus ect,, What special powers do these gb goons have besides hateful name calling and how to beat their slaves into submission to the point where they are not allowed to ask questions or they lose their families and friends forever. Jesus condemned that behaviour besides their nicolaotan behavior. There were no hiarchy or positions. Everyone was treated equal.
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Wouldn't it just makes sense for GOD to...
by confusedandalone injust one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
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We will have that oppurtunity when the two witnesses come and then Jesus. The witnesses are in for a rude awakening when they think the great tribulation will be so quick like in a day some feel yet according to Revelations we have three and a half years to get our act together. Remember when society said the two witnesses were them and their stupid conventions? And then they were to be slaughtered and society said instead they were thrown in jail and that's how the preaching work had stopped momentarily? Umm, if you read in Revelations after the two witnesses are killed then comes Harmegeddon. Has that happened yet? NOT!!!!!!!!!
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Going to Kingdom Hall for first time
by InChristAlone insince my family is out of town, and i am alone this weekend, i have decided to attend this once to see these things for myself.
have no fear, i have absolutely no interest in joining.
my goal is simply to better understand how to reach those who are on the inside, and i feel i could better do that by observing it.
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Tell them your already one of Jehovah's witnesses and your on holidays. Watch how fast your dropped like a hot potato and ignored. Sure you'll get a handshake and a hello but it won't go any further than that!
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My Judicial committee
by label licker init was six hours long.
at the beginning of the week i had four accusers and by the time i went (half way throught the week) i was up to twelve.
i was charged with apostasy, malicous slander, lying, revileing.
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Again, we never faded. We just stopped going altogther from over a year ago. This was all brought on because they knew we knew about one of the accusers brother and how he had gotton one of his employees to forge a legat document plus he got drunk one night and smashed in a car by hand. When we tried to bring that up at our jc the elders wouldn't address it. The other accuser was his wife and the other accuser was his brotherinlaw and the other accuser was his buddy that works for him. The best accuser of all was the elder/fillin circuit overseer who's testimony was a false accusation and it's his whole click! His wife studied with the one accuser and he had studied with the guy who smashed in the car. Are you starting to see a theme here?
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My Judicial committee
by label licker init was six hours long.
at the beginning of the week i had four accusers and by the time i went (half way throught the week) i was up to twelve.
i was charged with apostasy, malicous slander, lying, revileing.
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Hummingbird, we're only a ten minute drive away from Salem but not the Salem your thinking of. And yes it was just that, a witchhunt!!!!!!!!!! On the tape I'm told that the elders had to talk to others in the congregation for they were asking questions as well and they were all tolHd to stop it and to keep quiet about it. Then they said a local needs was given on foolish questionings and planting seeds of doubt that when the time is right we will recieve more spiritual food , to wait on Jehovah. They told me to just accept that the fds is the fds. Seriously, I got that on tape. They didn't say the governing body is the fds but the fds is the fds. WTH?
Last night we had a bunch in for dinner and bible study and they couldn't believe what they had heard. Hopefully we'll hear back sometime this week from our lawyer.
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AVOIDING A SHEPHERDING CALL: Suggestions pls
by grumblecakes inyup got a voice mail bright and early this morning "grumblecakes, we would like to schedule a shepherding call".. how do i get outta this?.
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If you avoid them by phone like we did, they will come out and sit outside your property until you come out. Then to get you to come to the hall they will go around and try and find as much untruth dirt as they can even if it is going back five years ago, they will also go to your old hall, and then set up a jc hearing. Trust me this is what happened to us. They will find young ones who are desperate for labels to willingly lie as well. And when you decide to tell the co to df you so you can appeal it for it was just such BS he won't for that means you would get three new brothers that will see it was just wrong. But hey, don't take my advice. You could play the health card like our friends from our old hall but eventually enough is enough. We just couldn't live a lie or we would end up like our one friend who thought hanging herself was a better way out. And she had almost a million dollars in her account but constantly had to deal with the rejection of her hall. Tell them you will call them when your hemeroids have shrunken!
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My Judicial committee
by label licker init was six hours long.
at the beginning of the week i had four accusers and by the time i went (half way throught the week) i was up to twelve.
i was charged with apostasy, malicous slander, lying, revileing.
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Thank you all! I'm starting to think maybe that's why they wouldn't disfellowship me. They knew I could appeal it. Not a bad strategy. Next move is mine. I'm going to take a breather and let my accusers forget what they had said. Only the ones that were at my jc are the only ones that are invited to come back for round two. In the mean time I am trying to edit out the two times I had to go to the washroom as well as when I got into the car I cursed a bad word and they don't need to hear that. That's really not me. I will wait to see what my rights are. Just waiting back from the lawyer.
I mean seriously, if all the other accusers were a no show and everyone of the twenty-five accusers were all like minded that I discouraged the pioneers then what does that tell you folks? The accusers that had shown up at my hearing either got thrown out or couldn't remember. It's no wonder the others wouldn't come for there was no evidence period!
I had a bad day today emotionally and I will recooperate. Hey, I've had to live in a van at the auto wreckers for almost a year after runninig away from home at fifteen because of my father. I had to survive. This was not that bad since I wasn't in a desperate state like I was back when I was fifteen. Not knowing anyone and hitchhiking into town until I found an empty van to live in. Got one meal a day from a greek restaurant owner. Came down with mono and thought I was dying. Whew! Nothing seems as bad as that anymore. It was just so sad to see these elders hide behind these young kids. It wasn't the kids fault but the elders knew how we loved them. We have no kids of our own and couldn't believe the situation they were in. I mean they were shaking and crying and were even asking the elders what do they want them to say to me. They even came over to me and gave me a hug in the parking lot. I know they felt bad.
The elders got their reward in full. I've decided that I will not be giving the co my letter and tape recording but it will be going to the service department at the bethel. But I need time. When we're done cutting out those two parts then I will go in person and give it to the overseer there. If anything they need to see what really happens and probably won't do anything but maybe give the co an aaa kicking. I'de love it if the co's are trained not to listen to any recordings and bethel finds out this one asked for mine.
One other sad thing that happened was the one funeral I had to go to was a study of mine. She took her life. The family wants to know what happened with her almost eight hundred thousand dollars that she had. All her money plus her building( about 300,000.00) apparently went to a JW who had told her she could no longer come to any congregation picnics as long as she was smoking. I deeply felt disturbed for this gal for she knew of a sister who was able to have her study there and she was smoking and another gal who was being studied with for over two years, had two kids and was living common-law and she was able to go to this lame congregation picnic. This gal was also an alchoholic and drug abuser and never knew her real family. She had a horrible horrible life. And the sister who had studied with her had also studied with me until I told her no more. We would go over to her place on weekends and they would get drunk. One thing you don't do is talk poorly of an elders wife by stateing the true facts. Oh well, she's in a better place than all of us. To think we have to live to die.
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My Judicial committee
by label licker init was six hours long.
at the beginning of the week i had four accusers and by the time i went (half way throught the week) i was up to twelve.
i was charged with apostasy, malicous slander, lying, revileing.
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Ding we tried. I had shown them two bibles where these bibles were revised the same year(1984) and at the two scriptures, the one had the brackets in and the other had the brackets out. The one elder didn't want to hear it and the other elder said he would research it and at the end of that conversation neither one wanted to look at it.
If they go to df my wife I will make sure I get her handicap sister on video stateing what she remembers about daddy and she points at her private area. This was infront of me and my wife and the rest of her nieces and sisterinlaw.
If the elders ask why is this all on the internet we can say isn't that what a public reproof is? It's for the whole public to know like they did to us in the hall. Except what we have to show and tell is the TRUTH!
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My Judicial committee
by label licker init was six hours long.
at the beginning of the week i had four accusers and by the time i went (half way throught the week) i was up to twelve.
i was charged with apostasy, malicous slander, lying, revileing.
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And that one elder who was my accuser and whos testimony got thrown out is also a FILL-IN CIRCUIT OVERSEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!